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Ep. 46 – Trudi Roth – Meditation & Cadence

In episode 46, Trudi Roth talks to Mich Bondesio about the connection between meditation, mindfulness, marketing, creativity and creating cadence. 

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Creating Cadence Podcast Transcript – Episode 46

[00:00:00] Mich Bondesio:

Hi, and welcome to Creating Cadence, a podcast for Life and Work in Motion. I’m your host, Mich Bondesio, a writer, coach, consultant, and solo entrepreneur. I’m also the author of the Cadence Effect. 

I work with high achievers, stuck on the toxic treadmill of hustle culture and the hamster wheel of overwork to help them transform how they approach life, work, and business. So they can activate more of their potential and perform better in every part of their life, at a cadence that’s more suitable to them despite this fast-paced world we live in.

 This is episode 46, the second episode of season eight, published in September, 2023. So last week I grumbled about how crappy the weather has been in the UK for months, and things have subsequently changed as we are now experiencing a heat wave in the final few weeks of summer whilst elsewhere, the world unfortunately floods. 

A stark reminder of the changing climate that I also spoke about in the last episode, and how we need to be approaching these challenges with courage, curiosity, and optimism alongside a grit mindset and solution-oriented attitude.

But back to the task at hand. 

 In the last episode, I explained why I wrote my new book, which you can find at, and I spoke about three specific concepts that are central to creating cadence. 

And that brings me to today’s interview, which is with an energetic, magnetic woman who has inspired and mentored me on both my book writing journey and my ongoing goal of continual improvement on the health and wellness front.

Meet my guest, Trudi Roth

Trudi Roth is a writer and meditation teacher dedicated to helping people express themselves authentically in all realms. With more than three decades of ghostwriting, content creation, and creative expression under her belt, Trudi crafts and communicates stories with heart for many individuals and businesses.

She’s also a produced playwright, a former YouTube personality, and a Vedic meditation teacher. She is passionate about shining a spotlight on the positive steps humans take every day to make the world a better place. 

During my chat with Trudi, she talks about the power of meditation to support health and focus, and how it’s easy to get stuck in maintenance mode instead of being more flexible and adaptable to the changing needs of our environment. She also talks about how Cadence helps us to be in our zone of genius and how creating deeper connections with our customers helps us to work with a deeper purpose.

 Trudi offers valuable insights based on her experience working as a writer and marketer, and I think you’ll really enjoy hearing what she has to say in her easy going way. 

So if you’re ready, let’s dive in. 

So welcome Trudi. I’m so excited to have you on the show.

[00:02:55] Trudi Roth:

Mich, thank you so much. I am thrilled to be here and very honored, so thank you for having me.

[00:03:01] Mich Bondesio:

My pleasure. Awesome. So just to provide my listeners with a little bit of context about how we know each other. 

For many years now, I’ve been part of the Unemployable Initiative, which is linked to Movement Ventures that you are a co-partner of. I am also a member of the Well and Wealthy community that you host online. And I had the pleasure of meeting you in person last year at the Creator Economy Expo in Phoenix. And since then we’ve collaborated in a few different ways. 

 Most importantly for me, you were a beta reader for my recently published book, The Cadence Effect, which is what this podcast is all about. And there’s a lot that you do in your work and in your life that corresponds with what I am trying to advocate for in terms of creating more cadence in our days and, and momentum in our life. 

So first of all, I just wanted say thank you ’cause you really influenced and supported my work and life in so many ways, from helping me to improve my writing and marketing skills to becoming a better meditator, for which I’m super grateful.

[00:03:56] Trudi Roth:

Oh, Mich. I love that. And that’s my pleasure. Those are all the places that I like to connect with people, you know? I, I would say my dharma is to help people express themselves authentically in all realms. So when we hang out together, I get very curious about what you’re up to and who you are.

And my recollection of my first encounter with you was through the Unemployable Initiative, and you had done a presentation on burnout, uh, that I thought was just excellent and touching and relatable, and I so appreciated everything you had to say. And I became really interested in your work at that point, because you took something very personal and turned it into your life’s work, which I find, you know, that’s the whole jam is to find meaning and purpose in what you do.

And I think. For most of us, or for many of us, part of where we find our special purpose, comes from adversity, comes from a place of, you know, where did I struggle? I know that that’s definitely been my path too. You know, where in meditation in particular, I’m a meditation teacher, and I was led to that because I had tremendous anxiety.

I had an anxiety disorder as a kid. And then as I was approaching another big life transition, kids, I have a couple kids. And the oldest was, uh, on his way to college. I thought, I gotta do something to make sure that I don’t go down that rabbit hole again. And that’s when I found meditation. And it was sort of like, it was such a profound tool for me.

And it, I had so many incredible experiences early on that I didn’t really even feel like I had a choice. It just felt like I needed to learn how to teach people how to meditate. I teach a mantra-based meditation, Vedic meditation, and I was off to the races from there. 

So, in you, I recognized a kinded spirit, ’cause that’s the same idea, you know, that you really, the things that you struggled with, you had to come up with, how do I handle this? How do I shift the cadence at which I’ve been running my life to something that’s manageable and not just manageable. Something that supports me thriving and blossoming and growing.

And I find that to be so appealing about you and really, you know, that’s where we’re very well aligned, I would say. Is that, that, kind of quest for, how do you get into a groove that helps you become intentionally productive and happy and healthy? I mean, without the healthy part, man, there’s nothing, nothing left to do.

So that’s a great, great life’s work. And it’s been an absolute joy and pleasure to see you articulate. I saw that the early stages, so to see you articulate in full bloom in such a helpful and easy to read and easy to understand and fun to read and understand book that is just, that’s the bomb right there.

[00:06:47] Mich Bondesio:

Thank you so much I’d forgotten about that burnout talk that you mentioned. Um, and I agree we are kindred spirits and isn’t it sad though that so many of us have to go through these hardships before we find the better way of doing things? So you’ve been on a kind of a different journey, but a similar journey in terms of finding yourself and finding what works for you. And we’ll get into the work elements of what you do and how that aligns with your outlook on life and the world. But what I’d like to know, first of all, is kind of where are you at in your life at the moment and how does that impact on your wellbeing and creativity and productivity?

[00:07:23] Trudi Roth:

That is a great question. Well, you know, so part of what I do, I write for a personal growth and development newsletter called Further, is the place to find it. And, so it’s a very Gen X perspective, but I think it’s very common for anybody who sort of reaches, you know, that 50-ish age, which is where I’m at now, to be in what we call the sandwich generation.

So that’s where I am right now. So I have two kids, one of whom is, um, pretty, he’s off and running in his career. He is 24. One who’s just getting started. She’s 22. And, I have a, an elderly dad and he’s in, uh, lives in a assisted living kind of place, and mom passed a couple years ago, so it’s almost, it’s so interesting.

It’s like every phase, every age has, its it has its things, you know, when the kids were little and I didn’t have a chance to breathe and it really dictated how I, all the decisions I made in my life, how my career went from being a corporate vice president, marketing kind of person to being a freelancer.

I always like to say I went from being like, You know, chief ass kisser to chief ass wiper. in one year, . And that was its own thing. And now this, at this phase, it’s sort of like I’m at the starting gates again. Like, hey, I can really go become self-realized and I have all these things cooking and ideas of things I wanna do.

And it still fits and starts, you know, your kids, you know, as a parent, as a very involved parent. They still, my daughter just moved home. I was so used to walking around, you know, doing my work in my undergarments and hanging out and just taking, and my cadence was very easy. I’m back on a schedule.

She comes home, she wants a snack, she needs dinner. We’re, I’m back to square one a little bit and also so conscious that this is the moment. This is a wonderful time and a time just to reconnect before she goes off and it’s really empty nest. Empty nest. So I’m conscious of all that. Same with my dad, you know, he’s.

Had some health issues, but nothing too terrible. There was a rough patch, you know, last winter where you know, everything ground to a halt, ’cause he was hospitalized for a week and then it was another six weeks in rehab, where I went every day. So it’s like a lot of fits and starts I think, in this phase, but I’m starting to believe that’s every phase.

And the beauty of being in this era that we’re in, where so much that we, we do is online and really can be on our own schedules, it’s helpful, but it still doesn’t mean that there’s, it’s not from a personal standpoint, there’s no, you know, this idea that there’s some delineation between personal and professional is just utter BS in my opinion, ’cause they all cross over. 

You know, it’s like I’m calling my dad’s doctor on one hand and then I’m banging out a piece for a client on the next, and it’s like, if you looked at like what my daily to-do lists are, half the things on there are like taking care of someone or something that has nothing to do with my professional life. And then . You know, the other half. And you know, sometimes when it’s like, oh, I shouldn’t be doing work right now ’cause it’s a Saturday, it’s like, oh, this is the best day ’cause I’m not getting interrupted 85 million times. 

[00:10:33] Mich Bondesio: Yeah. 

[00:10:35] Trudi Roth:

everybody takes off on Saturday and has fun.

And so sometimes I just find that’s the best day for me to get my, my actual stuff done.

[00:10:42] Mich Bondesio:

Yeah, so a question around kind of your routines and your habits that help to support you in these challenging times. You know, because obviously if you are in a situation where you can’t necessarily have a fixed routine every day because the demands of the day change based on things that are well beyond your control, what are your go-to things that you use to support your productivity and your wellbeing so that you can handle this and stay resilient and strong?

[00:11:08] Trudi Roth:

Well, I mean, number one, and this is, you know, Of course a meditation teacher’s gonna tell you this, but I meditate and it is sacred. So I meditate my meditation schedule. It’s 20 minutes, twice a day. It’s Vedic meditation. You know, we say same tree, different branch as transcendental meditation. And that is my anchor.

So I’ve meditate when I first wake up and then I meditate in the later afternoon prior to eating dinner. But it’s sort of like a bookend of my day. ’cause I will usually meditate after I’ve kind of finished all the work of the day. Um, around five o’clock or so.

And, um, even if I go back and I still have things to finish and things to do later on, it’s fine because that fills me up with what we call adaptation energy so that, you know, what I’m doing when I meditate is I’m releasing stresses.

I’m conscious of that and in the type of meditation that I teach, if you have a busy meditation where it’s a bunch of thoughts and I’m doing laundry lists about what I have to do today, that’s actually good news. This kind of idea that meditation is, you know, your mind is blank and the thoughts are like clouds.

They’ve all cleared. It’s a clear blue sky. That’s not really what happens. You know, I often like to say, you know, if you’re, if somebody said to you, if you could just make your heart stop beating for like five minutes, it’d be really good for your health. You’re you, you’re golden . You know, it’s like, that’s absurd.

And same with meditation. You know, the idea that you’re gonna make thoughts stop is not at all realistic, in my opinion. So what we do is transcend those thoughts and, you know, any form of meditation, it’s really finding a way to let the thoughts be and not engage with them. So just by starting that way really helps.

I’ve actually recently started this is, uh, actually I, in a wellness challenge I’ve been leading in a community that I lead called Well and Wealthy. We just did a thing about gratitude and I picked up, I reignited a habit of doing just like three things I’m grateful for in the morning. 

It’s such an amazing attitude adjustment [I agree] like you find it’s so much harder to be pissed off as the day goes on, and there’s so many things that can piss you off, right?

Nothing ever goes smoothly. Like that’s also just an absolute fallacy. And I, I. I wanna correct something you said earlier too, ’cause this is connected. So earlier you said, isn’t it sad that we have to go through adversity sometimes to get to a place of, of, 

you know, 

[00:13:27] Mich Bondesio: Connectedness, I suppose, 

[00:13:28] Trudi Roth:

Connectedness or, yeah, movement and, you know, redefining ourselves and things like that. And actually, from the Vedic perspective, there are three operator functions, right? So there’s Creation (Brahma), there’s Maintenance (Vishnu), and then there’s Destruction, (Shiva). And it’s a cycle. We see it every single day.

You know, it’s like you wake up, you know you’re destroying what you just had sleep, and now you’re gonna start creating things in the day. So you constantly have to cycle through these three stages and you. You know, the trap is trying, kind of getting stuck in maintenance. Like everything has to stay the same.

Everything has to be perfect. So from this perspective, I’m most interested in getting into a creative space. And so that means always that you have to go through a destructive space. And that’s hard.

That. I mean, you know, I’m not gonna be cavalier about it because people go through awful things and on the other side they start going, okay, everything’s how I knew it, what it was is gone.

So now what is, what is it? And I sort of take every day like that too. 

So I don’t get stuck anywhere. You know, when I find myself clinging onto something that I’m like, but it’s supposed to work this way, it always did before, for the last two weeks, you know, I was able to time box perfectly and get everything done and get everything in and, you know, figure everything out so smoothly.

But now there’s a roadblock and that roadblock is gonna destroy what was, you know? So even for example, when my dad was very ill and in the hospital, it was scary for a couple of months and I get very, I’m very much a caretaking kind of person, and so I got very in the weeds with him. 

Even that, thanks to meditation and stuff, I was able to see it as a gift and also be able to go, well, I’ll never have this time with him again.

So put your computer down, explain to people that you owe things to, you’re running a bit behind and why. See what happens. 

And everybody was so gracious and kind, and, and I I still got stuff done ’cause it was my workaholism was a distraction. Um, so yeah, so that’s, I would say that that’s on an everyday basis, just kind of having that perspective and that framework to look at and to feel into.

When things don’t go the way that they were planned or hoped for or whatever, that, that’s just part of the grand scheme of life. And take a breath, step outside, listen to a bird chirp and get back, get back to it. It’s that, that’s the cadence that I kind of go with, which is that expect the unexpected, you know, uncertainty is certainty.

Like one certain thing there is, everything is not for sure. So I try to ride with that as much as possible. And. The only way that I feel like I could have done that is by kind of studying these philosophies and, and teaching myself how to meditate, training my brain that way helps me not, I don’t get hung up so much anymore.

And that’s, you know, I think where my anxiety came from is going, something has to be different. What I feel inside doesn’t correlate to what’s supposed to be what it’s supposed to look like, what it all looks like out there. So something’s wrong and that’s a very fertile space for that anxiety to, to grow.

And so being less focused out there on what’s supposed to be and more inward, that space in between closes. So there’s not a lot of fertile territory for anxiety to crop up. And now when it does crop up, ’cause it’s not like there’s not anxiety and stress and even burnout or anything like that in regular days, but I, you know, I can recognize it and also go, well, it’s not permanent, you know, I’m not stuck on it.

This is not gonna be how it is, and I’m not gonna push myself to ride it out and, you know, tough through it, ’cause that just, you know what, what you resist persists. So I’m just gonna let into it and. And let things be. And that’s, that’s a cadence for me. ’cause that’s every day. 

Think about it.

There’s not one day where you’re like, everything is perfect. That was amazing. I mean, once in a blue moon you might go, that was an amazing best day ever. And that’s fabulous. We get that too. But the lion’s share is fits and starts and you know, unexpected things, delights and not so delightful.

[00:17:41] Mich Bondesio:

I agree. Thank you so much for explaining about that distinction between the creation and the destruction and the maintenance cycles. And it is a cycle, and that ties really closely to what it is when I talk about creating cadence, instead of looking at work-life balance, thinking about how things need to adapt and adjust and be kind of elastic in terms of how they expand and contract based on the differing demands of your day. 

And in terms of an ideal day, it’s more like ideal moments within a day. And as you say, that’s where that gratitude practice can tie in as well because you become grateful for those ideal moments and you really appreciate them when you start to notice them. So thank you so much for raising that. 

This ties in with the Shakti sisters, which is your meditation business with your partner Diana. And um, I love it on your website ’cause you talk about adventures in consciousness and so you make it a lot more accessible. It It’s not too formal. It’s as you say, anybody can learn to meditate. And so for any of my listeners who are interested in exploring that further, I would suggest that they check out the Shakti Sisters newsletter as a starting point because it’s a really great introduction. And I’ll share links in in the show notes to, to that. 

Okay, so you’ve explained a bit about what cadence means to you, and let’s look at that now in the context of the different types of work that you do. We’ve spoken a bit about the meditation side, um, but how does Cadence apply in terms of how you prepare yourself to support your clients? Before we get into what it is you actually do, how do you help yourself get into the best creative space you can be? ‘Cause a lot of the work that you do is obviously creatively focused.

[00:19:18] Trudi Roth:

Right. Yeah. I mean, the lion’s share of what I do, my day job, is I’m a writer and I’m a ghost writer. I do a lot of, like a lot of my clients, I ghostwrite thought leadership things for books, for things like that. Then I . You know, I contribute to places I work on website. It’s, it’s so varied. So that’s a great question about creating cadence, just, you know, as a freelancer which is what I am.

You ha you know, and I, I don’t know that this is any different for people that don’t freelance and you we’re constantly shifting gears. And in my case, as a ghost writer, I am getting into somebody else’s ethos. I’m getting into their cadence. How do they talk? How do they think? What, what do they care about?

 And so the way to do that, my experience, I’ve tried it so many different ways. I’ve tried it this old school, like I have a list and I’ll, I’ll jump from one thing to the next. Um, what I’m finding now, and this may be about my age too, and just the stage of life that I’m at, where it’s easier for me to hold space when I carve out real space.

So what I mean by that is I, I, don’t just hop from one thing to the next anymore. This idea of multitasking, which I am always prided myself as being really good at, just feels really old school and, and not how I work best. So, to prepare and to be in a cadence space, , I, I try to carve out a chunk of time to work on a certain, you know, on a certain project and I get into the head space.

I also really like to do extra research. I really like to delve into, I like to care. I like to give a shit, and when I find I don’t that’s not a great fit for me anymore.

I try to move those clients off my, off my docket, off my schedule. I mean, that’s sort of part of what I love doing too. It’s like I get to know my people and I, I really care deeply about them.

I was just thinking of a client of mine who, um, actually is in the UK and I haven’t talked to her in a while and I thought I really need to reach out and say hi and see how she’s doing. Not ’cause I’m farming for biz, but because I spent so much time. We worked together and she decided to sort of start writing her own stuff, which I totally support.

It’s great. And so that just kind of speaks to, I think how I, how I like to work and how the places that I really lean into it makes it fun for me. ’cause I work solo all the time. home alone with my dog. So I hope that answers the question. I, I think I may have.

[00:21:42] Mich Bondesio:

It’s a. No, it definitely does. What I love about what you’ve said is how important purpose is for you as part of creating cadence for your work, and that purpose is around creating connection.

And so many people in business don’t focus on any of that, and they’re more status driven than perhaps purpose-driven. Placing meaning at the centre of how you work is so powerful. 

And I work in a very similar way. I find that I have very deep connections with those clients. We actually become friends and that’s how I like to work. I like working with people I feel comfortable working with, and my clients are the same.

We build a really deep and trusted relationship. And it sounds to me like you do the same with your clients in terms of placing purpose at the centre, which is, which is beautiful. 

So, in terms of thinking about the different types of work that you do through movement consulting, which is all around digital marketing and business strategy, and then also your writing work through, It’s The TruStory, how do you think the work that you do helps to support your clients in terms of their cadence? 

You know, how does what you do for them improve their ability to be more productive in their business or to support the wellbeing of their business and the wellbeing of themselves?

[00:22:53] Trudi Roth:

Well. Okay, so this is my specialty ’cause it’s like my superpower. I see the awesomeness in everybody. I see things that people don’t see about themselves, where they’re so unique and special and different and where they make a difference. ’cause in my work, that’s marketing, right? That’s bringing out where your unique, you know, your value prop is ,where, what you bring to the table that’s unique and different.

Where you care, how you care, why you care, you know? So I’ll encourage, for example, I have a client who has ADHD and I was like, why aren’t we talking about your neurodiversity? I’m like, it makes you really cool. Like you can hold so many different things in your head at once. Let’s talk about that. And we wrote about that.

That’s one of the articles we wrote for him. And then by helping people articulate their vision, you know, through branding stuff or positioning stuff and really kind of listening to where they’re special. It lights them up and that’s where they can start, they start leaning into it.

And that to me is the definition of cadence you know, and, and to you too, obviously in your book, building Momentum, working with Purpose, creating a Meaningful Life, this is all the crucial pillars of creating cadence in your work and in your life. And so, you know, for example, that one client that I was talking about that you know, has Neurodivergence, he’s a CEO and he calls our meeting, we have a weekly meeting and he calls it his favorite meeting in the week.

This man has so many meetings. I mean, crazy. So I think that, that, that is so crucial to really understanding what your superpower is. And it’s genuine. It’s like, I love it when I, I see stuff about people that.

You know, people, we all build up walls about ourselves and we have, you know, it’s so hard to see what makes us stand out. And that’s by the way, a marketing position too. It’s like how, where you can hang your hat. So that’s how I help my clients and that’s also how I help myself because that’s fun.

You know, it’s really fun to have an uplifting and upbeat conversation. It’s really helpful to lean into something people feel confident about, that they are experts in, you know, their zone of genius. We’re not just in their zone of competence, like . 

Yeah. You know the ADHD CEO is genius at marketing. He has a market digital marketing company, and we write about that plenty. But like, let’s write about the other things too. It’s the whole picture.

[00:25:15] Mich Bondesio: Yeah.

[00:25:15] Trudi Roth:

And by being more holistic and relatable in this world, that’s a marketing thing too. It’s like more and more we see, you know consumers, they wanna connect in with people and things that stand for something, that are, connected to a movement that feels good to them.

And sometimes people, you know, my clients won’t know what that is about them. And I help point it out. Like, actually you think, you’re like, I just wanna talk to women. It’s like, okay. Yes. And. Which kind of women, like, let’s really dial it in. ’cause you’re, you know, a successful, you’ve done amazing, you’re so knowledgeable about website building. Let’s, let’s hone in who you are and who you speak to, and then you can show up authentically. And then it’s easy for you and it’s easy for me to write your content.

[00:26:01] Mich Bondesio:

I love that. Um, the idea of superpowers is really powerful and you know, when you are playing to your strengths, you are helping your clients to play to theirs. And I think that that’s a really important part of creating Cadence as well, is to identify how you can support yourself to play to your strengths, to use your superpowers to support your customers and clients. 

So as we’re nearing the end Trudi, thank you so much for this time. I’ve really enjoyed this conversation. Do you have any other words of advice or key thoughts or takeaways that you wanna share with listeners based on your experience?

[00:26:35] Trudi Roth:

Oh, thanks, Mich. Yes, I do. I mean, I think if I had to leave you with anything, it’s, this is it. I mean, there might be other lives, other times we don’t know. We can have our beliefs about it, but this is your time so do the things. I mean, it sounds a little trite, but not just what makes you happy, but do the things that bring you joy.

Know what they are. Spend time thinking about it and meditate on it. Really. I mean, once you meditate. And you bring that into your life. When you bring mindfulness into your life, you start noticing what doesn’t work. It’s not just about what does. And allow it to change you and allow it to lead you to where you are meant to be. Where you can serve others best. Where your superpowers are, where you have meaning, where you find meaning and purpose. 

And when you do that, and there’s no age limit, by the way. This is the most important thing. I’m 57 and I’m just getting started, so that’s my other piece. Like take any ageist mentality you have outta your head. Let it go. 

You are amazing at what you do, and you can keep learning and growing and changing. So do that. Lean into those spaces and make friends with people like I did with Mich who believe the same, who aren’t just griping, like, oh, I can paint. Oh, I’m too old. I’m too this or too that. You know, let all that crap go really?

And just find the places that delight you and light you up and, and do that as much as possible ,’cause none of us know how much time we have here and, why not make the best of it?

[00:28:13] Mich Bondesio:

Absolutely. That’s beautiful and that really ties in a lot with what I talk about in my newsletter and the podcast around approaching life and work with courage, curiosity, and cadence. And that’s what you’re saying is, you know, it’s not a dress rehearsal. Get out there, do it. The time is now. So that’s beautiful. Thank you. 

Alright Trudi, so where are the best places for people to find you online? And I’ll obviously share all of these details in the show notes as well.

[00:28:39] Trudi Roth:

Yes, thanks Mich. There are many, many places. So my website, my content creation website is,

As Mich mentioned, my partner Diana and I lead a meditation. We have a free group meditation every week on Thursday evenings, which is not always , not easy for people in the UK, but that’s okay. 

And also I write weekly at a newsletter called with my partner Brian Clark, and along with him and Jerod Morris, there are a couple communities that Mich mentioned, it’s the Unemployable Initiative and then also Well + Wealthy, where we are helping people at midlife live their best life, and I think those are all the places.

@ ItsTheTruStory my handle on all the socials, like Instagram in particular. But PS, I stopped going on social media very much so you ain’t gonna see me there all that often. But come see me in the community. Send me a note on my websites and, yeah, that’s it.

[00:29:34] Mich Bondesio:

That’s awesome. Well, I highly recommend listeners check out all of the links, which I’ll share in the show notes. So Trudi, thanks so much for your time. I truly appreciate you and being able to have this wonderful conversation with you.

[00:29:44] Trudi Roth:

Well, I appreciate you Mich, and for all the listeners out there, just keep tuning in ’cause what Mich has to say and what she has to share is life changing and I can definitely vouch for The Cadence Effect, that book is a Bible to me now.

[00:29:58] Mich Bondesio: Awesome. Thank you.

[00:30:00] Mich Bondesio: So I think you’ll agree there are many helpful observations and takeaways in this conversation with Trudi. But to close, I want to touch on one in particular, and that is the transformational power of meditation. 

You probably know that meditation is a brilliant and powerful tool, which supports a whole host of health, wellness, and productivity outcomes.

I explain some of the benefits of meditation in more detail in my book, the Cadence Effect. But as Trudi pointed out, meditation is also a helpful addition to our cadence toolkit because it provides opportunities to explore and develop our self-awareness. 

Meditation has the power to help us become more aware of and to become more accepting of the uncertainty of the situations we find ourselves in.

It helps us to go with the flow more easily and to deal better with the inevitable drama of what it means to be human.

Becoming more adaptable to the dramatically changing demands of our environments helps us cultivate more flexibility and elasticity. It also builds our resilience to better handle challenges without succumbing to burnout. These are all important components of creating cadence, too.

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